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New York, National Hosts React To Mets Giving Fans Thumbs Down

Several New York Mets players made headlines when it was announced they were giving thumbs downs to fans; the NY media reacts.

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Saying things aren’t going well for baseball fans in Queens lately is like saying a cockroach kind of messes up a bowl of ice cream. Falling from first place in the NL East to almost certainly not making the playoffs, the wheels fell off even further this week when infielder Javy Baez explained why he and others on the team, notably Francisco Lindor and Kevin Pillar, have been giving the ‘thumbs down’ symbol after big hits or plays — to troll the ever-booing Mets fans.

If there is one thing owner Steve Cohen does not want to see early on in his tenure, it’s an acrimonious relationship between star players and fans. Sure, it’s the Big Apple, so underperforming players are always going to draw the ire of the ticketed customer and social media “woulda-been big leaguers.” But players giving it right back to the fans, particularly during a monumental slide, can not sit well. The New York media, including Michael Kay, took to the airwaves to give their opinions on the matter.

“I just get the sense that it was Lindor that was really poking Baez,” said Kay. “Baez doesn’t even know the Mets fans. He’s been there 17 games. How would Baez be the guy who is going to give the dissertation on Mets fans? It had to come from Lindor, they’re best buddies.”

Craig Carton of Carton & Roberts on WFAN is never shy about his passion for the team across the way in the Bronx. He appeared to bask a little bit in the glow of the apparent meltdown for the Mets while his co-host Evan Roberts, a Mets die-hard, went off on the thumbs down gesture.

“We’ve got an out-of-touch owner, a disgruntled player who is at least honest, two other disgruntled players who aren’t honest, and we’ve got a general manager/president who is on his way out, it’s New York Mets baseball, baby!” said Carton. “Meanwhile, the Yankees lose two-in-a-row and who cares? The New York Mets are on fire!”

Chris Russo joined High Heat to give his usual dose of caffeinated rage to the players in question.

“I am completely down on the Mets,” said Russo. “Baez has been there for about a month and hits .207. In August, .207! And Lindor? Look yourself in the mirror, you’re making $40 million a year and you hit .225 with 36 RBI. Nobody cares about your defense. Look yourself in the mirror. You’ve been an embarrassment your first year.”

While the admonishments of the Mets players were aplenty locally, nationally, Dan Patrick gave a different view. He said while he understands boos for a lack of effort or apparent care by a player, when it comes to performance, he doesn’t see how it helps the fan’s beloved team do better, even if it is for a fanbase hurt as often as the Mets.

“Does booing your player or your team help?” Patrick asked. “Does it help the player and the team? Now, it might help you, because you’re angry and this is your team, and you want to win, and you’re tired of seeing this movie every single year. It ends the same way: hopes die.”

To sum it up, things are not looking up in Flushing Meadows.

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Nick Wilson: Deshaun Watson Press Conference ‘Insulting’ To Local Media

“You — neither Deshaun, his lawyers, or anybody involved in this — get to dictate what those reporters get to say, ask, or think.”

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Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson met with the media for the first time yesterday since being reinstated by the NFL after the league ruled he was guilty of violating the Personal Conduct Policy due to improper sexual advances towards more than two dozen massage therapists. 92.3 The Fan afternoon host Nick Wilson called Watson’s press conference “trash” and “insulting” to local media.

Watson told reporters he would only answer football related questions from the assembled media members, which Wilson took issue with.

“You can’t bury this story simply by saying ‘I won’t talk about it’,” Wilson said. “It is insulting to the media who covers this team. This is not about Nick Wilson, I promise. This is about the beat reporters who cover this team. It is insulting — intentionally or not — to say ‘You know what, guys? I love y’all, but I’m going to dictate what you ask me’.

“You don’t do that. You dictate when you speak, your opening statement, or how you respond. You — neither Deshaun, his lawyers, or anybody involved in this — get to dictate what those reporters — who work very hard day in, day out covering this organization, covering Deshaun Watson, covering this town — get to say, ask, or think. That was trash.”

Co-host Dustin Fox added the whole job of the media is to bring information to fans, and Watson wouldn’t allow reporters to do that Thursday, and may never do that.

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Gregg Giannotti: Biggest Issue With Craig Carton, Jon Jastremski Feud Is “Mole” At WFAN

“The thing that bothers me the most about this is the leak from within the building. Someone here is sending this audio out to a former listener…to cause problems.”

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Gregg Giannotti

A feud has sprung up between WFAN afternoon host Craig Carton and former WFAN host John Jastremski. Boomer & Gio discussed the spat on Friday morning’s show, with Gregg Giannotti being troubled by a revelation.

During his New York New York podcast, a voicemail left for Jastremski asked about Carton’s comments, but the caller said a WFAN employee sent him the clip of Carton’s criticism.

“So that means we have a mole,” Boomer Esiason said.

“That right there is a problem,” Gregg Giannotti added. “‘We both have a mutual friend that still works over there’ and that person shared a link of Craig talking about JJ (Jastremski). So, clearly, that person is on JJ’s side and they’re still working here. That’s a mole! That’s someone going against the team! And I think know who that is!”

Esiason then asked if he knew the person, to which Giannotti said he did. He then asked if he would be upset by who it was, which Giannotti affirmed as well.

The show then played the final portion of Jastremski’s rant, which included him saying to Carton “I’m not listening to a crook. So you know what? Go take a f—ing hike.”

“Jesus!” Esiason exclaimed. “Good for JJ, though. Standing up for himself.”

“I like both of these guys. I do. I got respect for both of them,” said Giannotti. “Everybody doesn’t have to go to the jail, crook thing with Craig every single time. Do they? It’s low-hanging fruit. Everybody goes there. There’s no way he can defend himself in that way because everybody saying ‘You went to jail’ didn’t go to jail, and it’s not apples and oranges. But the business stuff is apples-to-apples.

“So when I hear that, I’m just like ‘Ok, you went there. Be a little more creative than that’. As far as I listen to legend things, please, nobody has given me worse advice in my life than Mike Francesa did. Nobody. I would still be out in the newsroom cutting Islander highlights if I listened to that guy. And the only reason why Mike liked JJ was because he didn’t feel he was a threat. The only people Mike likes is the people he feels non-threatened by. And that’s where that comes from.”

After concluding Jastremski’s rant was a “little over the top”, Giannotti then turned his attention to the “mole” inside the station.

“The thing that bothers me the most about this is the leak from within the building. Someone here is sending this audio out to a former listener…to cause problems. That — to me — is an issue. The guy on the voicemail said ‘We may or may not have a mutual friend that still works at the radio station’ and this guy just slammed the radio station. And he’s friends with the guy who slammed the radio station and then slammed Craig and this guy’s on their side?! And this guy that works here is on their side?! That to me is a major, major problem.”

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Dan Dakich: Craig Carton is ‘The Way Talk Radio Should Be’

“If you’re being critical because you want to be the guy that’s always critical I don’t think you can do that either. I think you gotta be honest. And criticism comes with it.”

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Craig Carton has prided himself on being one of those hosts who tells it like it is, especially when talking about New York’s pro sports teams.

That willingness to call a spade a spade and levy criticism on teams like the Jets and Giants, especially when things are not going well on the field, is something Dan Dakich has always seen as a recipe for success in the industry.

Interviewing Carton on Thursday on his Outkick show Don’t @ Me, Dakich praised the WFAN afternoon host for essentially creating a blueprint for how sports talk should be done.

“In Indianapolis I’m the bad guy right, because I say look the Colts stink, this regime is 46-49-1 – why are you telling me the GM is the best in the country – why are you telling me Frank Reich can really coach?” Dakich said. “New York’s different, though, right? I mean, New York they expect you to say look if you ain’t any good then you ain’t any good. Yu don’t sugarcoat nothing, and I think that’s the way talk radio should be.”

Carton noted that what’s key in how you critique a team or a front office, executive or owner is finding a balance. He said you can’t as a host be the ultimate homer and blow smoke up everyone’s behind.

“You have to be able to be critical when it’s warranted,” Carton said. “If you’re being critical because you want to be the guy that’s always critical I don’t think you can do that either. I think you gotta be honest. And criticism comes with it.”

Carton pointed out that the fan bases in both New York and in Indianapolis are ultimately the same, because at the end of the day it’s all about making sure you have competent people calling the right shots. He added that the organizations are the same too because of how sensitive they can be to criticism, which he said if they don’t like it, “too bad.”

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